The Unf*ck Your Fitness Podcast

201. Protein, Progress and Protecting Your Muscle as You Age with Liz Plosser

• Kristy Castillo

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I’m excited to welcome Liz Plosser to the podcast today!


Liz has worked in health and media for years, from Self Magazine to stepping into her own brand to help women get stronger, healthier, and more empowered. She’s a mom, she’s been through the journey herself, and she gets it - especially the protein struggle we ALL deal with!


In today’s episode, we dive deep into essential amino acids (EAAs), and why they’re such a game-changer for women. If you’re wondering WHY you may need these, think: better recovery, stronger hair and nails, improved muscle maintenance, and even brain function. 


We both use EAAs in our everyday routine; they’re kind of like your body’s “unsung hero”, and help to fill in the gaps (even if you’re doing pretty well with your protein AND overall nutrition)!


This episode is your reminder that being strong isn’t about perfection - it’s about showing up, learning what your body needs, and giving yourself the tools to feel amazing at EVERY stage of life!!


Episode recap:

  • Liz’s personal health & fitness journey + what inspired her to step out on her own
  • The balancing act of parenthood, fitness & nutrition + how it all shapes our kids
  • Why certain moves (like deadlifts) require extra caution & body awareness
  • Liz’s own struggle with protein intake + how dialing in your macros changes everything
  • Tips for actually hitting your protein goals + how protein powders & supplements can make it easier
  • Why essential amino acids (EAAs) matter for women + how they differ from what men need
  • The importance of choosing high-quality, third-party tested supplements
  • Best times to take supplements like creatine and EAAs (without overthinking it)
  • Why aging doesn’t have to come with aches, pains, or decline
  • Taking EAAs when you’re already hitting your protein goals


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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Un-Fuck-Your-Fitness Podcast. I am your host, Christy Castillo, and I'm here to give you real talk and cut the BS so you can actually enjoy building a body you love. I'm a personal trainer obsessed with giving you simple action steps to take you from feeling stuck to feeling sexy. Let's go.

Speaker 2:

Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to today's episode. I'm super excited for you to soak in all of the information in today's episode. I did an interview with Liz Plosser, who is pretty experienced, I would say, in the health and wellness, nutrition, fitness space, and we talked about protein, we talked about this journey and we really focused in on essential amino acids, which are something that I take religiously. Actually, I was told not to take them a little while back by my doctor when I went in for some blood pressure issues. You guys know the drill. But I went in and she advised me to get off of all of my supplements because they weren't FDA approved and who knows what was in them. I was off of them for about a week and then I started taking a prebiotic, probiotic and creatine and my EAAs again. So they're just something that I feel so good when I take. Like I really feel a difference inside of my body, and so I wanted to have someone on who could really talk about the science, who could talk about the effects, who could talk about the product in a way that I can't, because I don't know all of the things about it. I know it makes me feel better. I know I really like them. I know you know, obviously, certain things and essential amino acids are something I have talked about here on the podcast. So go back and listen to episodes about nutrition or about macros or about protein, because protein and EAAs do go together. So I have definitely I'm no stranger to talking about them.

Speaker 2:

I do recommend EAAs to a lot of my clients. I think they're very they're like creatine something that everybody should take. I don't ever recommend supplements right out the gate. Just like you know, if you're going to work with me, you have to be taking X, y and Z. It's definitely a per person basis, but I do recommend them and so this, yeah, I really really trust Liz. I really enjoyed our conversation. We really dove into so many different things and nerded out on a lot of lifting. She is 46. I am 44. You know we're in this space. We've been doing this for a long time. She's someone that has worked in this space in different arenas and she talks about that in the episode. So I really, really hope that you enjoy this episode. I got so much out of this conversation Real raw, non-filtered. Love the product, love what they do for my body and happy to recommend them. There is a link in the show notes if you do want to get 20% off the particular product we're talking about, kion Aminos in this particular episode.

Speaker 2:

I have been doing a little bit of changes behind the scenes with supplement companies that I work with and things and products that I recommend. I won't get into that now in the preview for this particular show, but just kind of reworking based on different things quality of products, company whatever. So I've been going through and making some changes behind the scenes having to do with supplements companies that I will promote. I will never promote something that I don't personally take or I haven't taken and really, really believed in. I won't ever recommend something to you. Everything that I recommend to you you can know with 100% certainty I believe in it with 100% certainty and that is my promise to you guys is that I don't do any of this for the financial benefit. Really, for as far as supplements, I'm never going to make enough money from a supplement company to be able to make a huge dent in my life. So I promise to always be very, very open and honest with you guys as far as supplements go. So please enjoy this conversation with Liz and I and please reach out to either one of us after the show and tell us how much you loved it, what you learned, and ask any questions.

Speaker 2:

Enjoy the episode. All right, liz, welcome to the show. I am super excited to have you. Thank you, christy, I'm so excited to be here with you. Awesome, all right. Well, let's dive right in. Since I kind of told everybody already a little bit about you, I didn't go into too much detail because I wanted to hear it straight from the source. I'm big on that. But so let's go ahead and tell us a little bit about yourself. More of the side of, how did you get started with and I know you have quite the laundry list of accolades, I guess experience, but how did you get into health, fitness, nutrition?

Speaker 3:

Okay, I'll try to do the shortest version possible. I've always been interested in those topics. I was a very sporty child growing up and I quickly learned, playing soccer, tennis and basketball as a kid how recovery and nutrition were related to my performance. So that sort of passion and fire for learning more and experimenting with my body was always there. And then I'm one of those very lucky souls who was able to make a passion into my life's work professionally. So soon after graduating from college, I started working in media. I work at Self Magazine that was my first job in this space as an editorial assistant covering fitness and I've worked at a lot of different brands focused on health and wellness, including Well and Good, and I oversaw health at Cosmo for a while and most recently I was the editor-in-chief of Women's Health.

Speaker 3:

So I had that job for seven years, yeah, and now, as of just 2025, I stepped out on my own. So still sticking with health and wellness, but finding new exciting ways to teach people and educate people and hopefully inspire them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's awesome. I know you've we've worked in the field a long time and I think that's so cool. Like that's a lot of different angles. I would assume. Just you know being the editor and then stepping out on all of that and then to now going stepping out on your own. I'm sure that has a lot to it. What made you want to step out on your own?

Speaker 3:

Well, you know, I love that brand and I love my team so much and I continue to love it and cheer very hard for them from the sidelines. But I've just been doing media for so long and particularly at Women's Health. I've been there, as I said, for seven years. It just it felt like I had made the impact that I wanted to make and led the team and led our content and new directions. I had just helped the team oversee a big redesign across all of our platforms. So I'd been itching for a while to go try new things and experiment and take my experience and skills and see what else was out there and how I can use them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's awesome. This is such a. That's one of the things I love about this space is there is so many different things you can do with it. And then, when you've kind of outgrown it or I get that itch sometimes too I'm like, okay, time to pivot is a word that I use often in the podcast with my clients just within pivoting with their journey. But I feel like that too, like it's kind of time to pivot. I have a new, I think, as I age too.

Speaker 2:

We were just talking briefly about like my kids as I'm aging, or as like my kids now. Well, they're 19 and 17. So they've been into sports but just watching their bodies change and then putting you know, kind of learning more about that and getting some certifications in youth just to kind of help. It's like there's just so much that I'm always learning and so many different ways that I can help. And then, with myself being 44 right now, the hormonal changes and things that I've had to go through recently. It's like there's just so much in this space and, yeah, I feel like it's good to kind of branch out.

Speaker 3:

I agree and yes, we were chit-chatting for a second but I have three kids two 14-year-olds, boy-girl twins and a 10-year-old. I'm curious if your kids ever give you shade when you talk about nutrition and fueling their body.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3:

They're like, oh yeah, enough with the food, I know Enough about vitamins and antioxidants and I'm like, no, this is so important. I just took them all to their annual checkups and I loved it because the pediatrician was asking them questions about their nutrition and in a very you know gentle but firm way, and I could see in their eyes and body language that, like they know all this stuff. But hearing it from a person in perspective, especially one wearing a doctor's coat, you know that that made an impression.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, my kids do, for sure. I've talked about that on the podcast before. It's a fine line between you know, being kind of, I'm obsessed with health and fitness for, like, I always have been as well and it is my job. But they are also my children, so you know you don't want to shove it down their throats because then they don't do it, it's like any other thing. But yeah, it's nice when I'll hear. You know my son being the 17 year old. His friends come over and they talk about they. We have a gym and they want to get strong and creatine and all the things that my son will kind of like. I can see him perk up, like, oh, I kind of know a little bit about this. This is kind of cool, so it comes in handy. Eventually they start to not think you're so crazy.

Speaker 3:

My oldest son, charlie. He sometimes comes to the gym with me. Now I recently taught him how to do this properly.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's so cool. It's really neat yeah.

Speaker 3:

I wish somebody had taught me about weight training when I was that age. I didn't come into it really until I went to college and in my 20s, but um, yes.

Speaker 2:

I agree.

Speaker 3:

There's a I. Let them be their own people and don't you know, knock them over the head.

Speaker 2:

The information, but also it's cool we have like knowledge and yeah, it is brilliant yeah, I think it's so freaking cool too, like as the mom, like obviously it'd be cool too for the dad. But one of my son they were talking about deadlifting the other day at basketball practice and my son's friends like, well, how much do you deadlift? And I was like, oh, what a cool question to ask someone's mom. Like that was kind of crazy. Yes, they were talking about deadlifting, I know. I turned around I'm like he was.

Speaker 2:

He made a joke about how little he deadlifted and I said you didn't deadlift. That, that's not true. And he's like, no, I deadlifted X, y and Z. And he's like, well, how much do you deadlift? And I was like, oh, my gosh, that is so crazy. I mean, they all know what. I need to know how much you deadlift. I don't remember I have not actually deadlifted for honestly and to rep, to max out in a long time. What did I end up telling him? I think I just told him I did a plate earlier this week for reps, but it's been a while since I've deadlifted for progressive overload or anything, which is so funny because they don't understand any of that stuff. So they're just like, well, how much do you deadlift? And I'm like, okay. Well, it's deload week, so it's so funny.

Speaker 3:

I just wrote about that. The power of deload weeks and PRs. The deadlift is my absolute favorite move in the gym. Oh, really Lights me up. I love deadlifts how much do you deadlift.

Speaker 2:

Please tell my ladies, I know.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so my lifetime maximum is 275. Oh nice, which I never thought I could do, but I had to back off because of some old back stuff. I had a bad skiing injury, so I had to be careful. But I've been working my way back up and I'm currently at 265.

Speaker 2:

Nice. Yeah, thanks, I love that. Yeah, I'm like throw out a big number for my ladies to know how important that is.

Speaker 3:

People are they. They can't believe it and I'm like you know it's. Everyone has their stuff. There's plenty of things I can't do, such as dance party, not connect, connect. But if I'm following a program properly and deloading and resting properly, it can continue to move up in my deadlift.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that for sure I haven't deadlifted in a like that, like heavy, heavy, for probably two years because I didn't deload correctly and I ended up my whole posterior chain between deadlifting and hip thrusting too heavy, too fast totally, totally screwed me up. So I this this next build season going into fall and winter, I'm excited to build that back up. But yeah, had to kind of take a break because I didn't properly deload, but anyway, no, we, we know better.

Speaker 3:

And yet sometimes, when you get really excited about your workouts or a particular lift, it's hard to make yourself yeah, and I was seeing some, I looked so good and I felt so strong until I didn't, until I did it. I had the exact same experience about two years ago.

Speaker 2:

Yep, yeah, I feel like it happens. And then we just pivot. And it's fine Speaking of all of that and relating it back to protein, because I know we're gonna talk about EAAs, we're going to talk about my favorite ones, we're going to talk about protein, which obviously all of this goes into play of that. But have you always been so? I didn't really find out about. I always liked physical, like I started with beach body. I started with, yeah, I would say, beach body I, and then I went to like bodybuildingcom and I went down this rabbit hole of just kind of experimenting with different programs, get certified, all the things, but I didn't start being really meticulous with protein until probably way too late. I mean, you know well into my journey, just because I didn't know the importance. Did you always know? Or I mean you said you didn't start lifting until like college, but did you always kind of know? Or was that a gradual shift for you in learning all the things?

Speaker 3:

protein. I had edited them and it honestly, it wasn't until about three years ago because it was the summer three years ago that I finally did an inventory of my own diet and to be like, okay, Liz, like how much protein are you having? And it's I'm not vegan or vegetarian, it's not like I'm afraid of meat or anything, but I do think these like hardwired, cultural, like oh, there's fat in that or they're highly caloric foods, Like that was somehow in my DNA, even though, once again, I knew better. That happened during the pandemic and really wanted to level things up personally and started looking at my nutrition. When I finally took a day to track and see how much protein I was having, Christy, it was great. It was like 40 or 50 grams a day.

Speaker 3:

Oh my I know, and for somebody like me who's got like three kids, was commuting into Manhattan every day training three not every day, but, you know, five times a week, as you know and your listeners know, that was not nearly enough for me and my weight and my activity level. So that was a big wake up call. And then my next step was okay, let's spend a week just like understanding how much protein is in different foods. So I actually like got out of food scale and was, you know, using apps or whatever. I think I was using Lose it at the time to really like get granular and track myself.

Speaker 3:

I don't do that anymore. I didn't do that for very long, but I found it incredibly helpful in the beginning, just to understand. I guess you know my favorite foods and how much protein is in them and I noticed a difference so quickly even in that stage. And my next level up was okay, let's try to get to 100 grams a day, because I knew I needed at least that much.

Speaker 2:

And again I just I felt my energy changing.

Speaker 3:

I felt like I was recovering more quickly from my workouts and now I sit at about 125 to 130 grams a day. Okay, awesome, and like, as I had this personal experience, it became a big mission of mine on my personal platforms like I'm active on Instagram, but also at Women's Health to do more stories and content explaining the importance of protein, because, as somebody who knew better and still was doing it, I'm like listen, women can't hear this enough. Yes, and from all different angles and different ways, because you just like never know what's going to click with someone. So true.

Speaker 3:

It has been such a transformative thing in my life focusing on that macronutrient that I'm really committed to sharing more about it with women so they can feel as good as I believe they can.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for sure. I'm so glad you shared that experience Because I think a lot of people I always tell my clients like protein is something you're going to have to be intentional about. It's not something that you're snacking on. I'm not like, oh, post-dinner snack, give me a chicken breast to gnaw on. I mean, it's very rarely am I picking up protein, and I know better as well but I still have to every single day. It has to be a staple or it's a very intentional choice every single day, and I think it's just good for people to know that even people like us who are in this space that even if we know something is what you should be doing technically doesn't mean that we do it or do it easily, you know, or something like that. But I'm glad you said, too, that you saw huge differences, because, yeah, obviously my clients do too did as well once I started.

Speaker 2:

Because it's one of those things where you're not going to see the product. You can be eating well and you can be maybe even hitting calorie goal and you can be lifting you could be dead lifting to whatever but if you're not having the right macronutrients, if you're not getting especially that amount of protein, you're going to feel stuck. It's going to feel like that skinny fat or you're just going to feel plateaued or whatever. So I feel like same for me. When I really started focusing on protein Duh, yeah, I just remember thinking to myself like wow, I feel so much better. Duh. It was like I had to say that every single time, like no, no shit.

Speaker 3:

Exactly. Yeah, I felt the same and you know, I've talked to so many friends and family members and people I don't even know, who find me on Substack and Instagram, and I'm always like let me know how you feel, because nothing lights me up more than hearing back from them in a couple weeks.

Speaker 2:

Like, oh my.

Speaker 3:

God, what have I been doing? I'm like, yep, I know there's no magic bullets in this world, but really like this is as close as you can get.

Speaker 2:

Totally agree. And when I have someone saying they're plateaued, or I have someone kind of coming to me with anything they're kind of struck with or struggling with, I'm like are you hitting your protein goal? It doesn't have to be your body weight and protein, it doesn't even have to be your goal body weight and protein. It depends on where you're at in your journey. But are you hitting a protein goal that is great for you, or are you sitting at 40, 50 grams a day, like us? Because, like, sometimes it happens and, like you just said, tracking and all of that can be so eye opening where you're like no, I'm eating healthy and I think I'm getting my protein in. Well, weigh it for a while, whether it be a week to a month or whatever, just to kind of figure out like, are you actually because we can think we are doing that and not doing that?

Speaker 2:

Protein is also something that I think is it's just hard to come by for people that are traveling or you know, if you're going out of town to make it a priority, but it's a little bit harder to do that. You know when you're eating out and things like that. So I think, supplementing with it, which we're going to get into in a little bit, is so important because, as I gradually went through my journey of, okay, protein is really important, I can be very consistent with it at home. And then I had to start being very consistent with it at the ball field and at volleyball games and I had to figure out snacks to take with me so that I could still be consistent, because I'm not going to pack a chicken breast with me. I'm just not that type of a girl, right.

Speaker 2:

And then on the days that I'm not hitting my protein, is there something that can help me? Of course, protein shake, you know things like that, but is there anything else? And that's kind of where supplementing with things kind of came in. So, along those lines for you, when did you start adding in things like protein powder, or do you? Or creatine and then EAAs, and what did that look like for you and how?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so first of all, I agree with everything you said.

Speaker 3:

I was traveling yesterday and a part of me wanted to pack some hard boiled eggs for the plane, but I cannot be that person that I very much want to get protein from real whole foods and I really make an effort to do that every day. But yeah, like life happens, so to roll with that and have an insurance policy, I definitely use protein powder. I use it in all sorts of ways, predictable ones, like I love making a morning smoothie using protein powder ice, banana, maybe some other fruit, I'll stir it into oatmeal, I'll stir it into Greek yogurt sometimes. Yeah, I'm mostly using it, I would say, at breakfast or lunch as a supplement. So that happened pretty quickly. As I went on my protein journey, I learned quickly like, oh, there's so much protein in the protein powder and this just makes life easy. And then creatine happened soon after, because I think I mean the other thing is, we talked about how much better you feel your energy, but also it's very motivating when you see your body starting to change too.

Speaker 2:

Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 3:

Anyway. So as that was happening, as I saw my reflection in the mirror, actually, you know, showing how much effort I was putting in at the gym, I was like, oh, this is cool. And so I started going like even deeper down the rabbit holes, and so I next up was when I added creatine, and soon after that is when I discovered essential amino acids, which I could talk about all day because I don't think enough people are talking about them. I'm really happy that the world has woken up, I think, to the power of creatine, that it's not just some secret.

Speaker 3:

You know bodybuilding bros at the gym, but it's something. There's so much cool science about it, but there's even more research and studies about essential amino acid supplementation. So it's really cool once you start geeking out and get into the literature. Yeah, totally.

Speaker 2:

I have. That's really the only supplements that I do supplement with protein powder or shake if I'm too lazy to which actually recently I've been very too lazy to like mix protein powder in anything. Life gets crazy y'all, and sometimes I just need to grab a shake that is already made and chug it and that's fine. But I and then creatine and EAAs and glutamine I was taking for a while but I haven't even been taking that. So those are the only things that I've been taking. And you're absolutely right, when you start to see changes in your body, like there is no better feeling because you can be like I said a little bit ago, we can be working your ass off and doing quote unquote all the things. That's something that I say on the podcast you're doing all the things but you don't look like you're doing all the things and it's so frustrating. And so when you can find something and all of those things for me where protein powder helped me because in the beginning, again, what am I going to take? And where I'm go? I'm on the go all the time and I have busy teens and a lot of people listening. They're like I can't get it in. Take a protein shake, it's fine. Try to make sure it's, you know, well-made and and has great ingredients and all the things. But that's okay. But, yeah, when you are like you're wasting time, time, if you are just kind of nonchalantly in the gym without a plan and if you're not supplementing with some EAAs and some creatine.

Speaker 2:

I agree that EAAs are not talked about enough. Creatine probably wasn't either. So maybe we're on our way, maybe EAAs are next. But when I started taking creatine, I noticed that I felt bigger, muscular, wise, you know things like that. When I started taking EAAs, I noticed that as well, but I felt better and that's something I didn't experience with creatine. So, yeah, eaas was just like mentally a little bit, physically a little bit. It was just like I felt different and better. I can't even explain it. I'm sure you're going to let you're going to explain it to me, but that's how I felt when I started taking them.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I had. I had a similar experience and it's interesting I've just been spending some time with my in-laws this summer. My mother-in-law is in her 70s and because I'm the geek who's always talking about protein and nutrition and lifting weights and how important that is, as as we women get older, I got her on the creatine and aminos train, so she's been doing them both for a while. But this latest time I saw her this summer she was sharing with me that since she got really diligent about taking her essential amino acid supplement every single morning, which is just a scoop of powder stirred into water nothing crazy that she no longer has back pain when she wakes up in the morning. I thought that was so cool that she could notice sort of a line in the sand and yeah, that's the awesome thing.

Speaker 3:

We love to lift and we get fired up going to the gym and doing that and I talk like deadlifting goal. But like this matters for just everyday life how you feel and look Like as we get older, and I have noticed this season, even as somebody who is, you know, sporty and lively and active. Like our bodies. You know they're changing and there are aches and pains and injuries that develop just as a normal part of aging. So essential amino acids, what they're doing in your body and we can, you know I can talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Let's geek out here.

Speaker 3:

So, basically, when you're eating protein and when, christy, you and I are talking about eating a protein forward diet, from whole foods whether that's the eggs or the chicken breasts, or vegan or vegetarian sources what you're really doing is eating essential amino acids.

Speaker 3:

That's why you're eating that macronutrient, that's why it's so important, and what happens is your body takes all the EAAs that are in the protein and uses them to activate protein synthesis inside your body, and so I think probably what's happening in your muscles and helping them recover is what gets the most attention and focus in the media and, as we're talking about it, on social media. But it's doing those essential amino acids aminos in your body, whether you get them from your diet, from a protein powder or from an EAA supplement. They're doing so many other awesome things in your body. Your body needs essential amino acids for its immune system, for your brain to work at top notch. There's cool research about how it's impacting your neurons and keeping them healthy and maybe sparking new neurons to grow. It's keeping your hair healthy and shiny, your nails strong and thick. So there is literally not a part of your body that's not using amino acids to spark cellular turnover and create protein synthesis in your body, so you feel better from head to toe.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when I started reading about that kind of a thing I mean, again, you and I both knew about protein before that when you really dig into the protein, it's like, like you said, there's not one part of your body that's not using protein and specifically those essential amino acids I'm like, well, shit, if I'm not eating enough protein, then I'm not getting enough of these essential amino acids. Therefore, my body is not working properly. And you know, you, just kind of, I personally that's how I do I'm like, well, and then this is being caused and this is being caused and again, for, yeah, that physical, I want to look better. I also want to feel better. I also want to age gracefully. I also want to. You know, especially, kind of, like you said, as we age, it's like it gets more and more important, and I nerd out about those things even more. For women, specifically, what is the benefit? Are there more benefits for women, I guess, than men? Like, how is it different for the essential amino acids?

Speaker 3:

Yeah. So I mean, I think one thing we could talk about is again part of aging. You and I didn't make the rules. This is just life and how it works. But for every decade older women get, starting at about their 40s, which is when most women enter perimenopause or even menopause there's a condition that happens Sorry, it's going to happen to all of us. It's called sarcopenia, which is age-related muscle loss. So there are varying estimates out there, but some researchers project that we lose five to 8% of our lean muscle mass every decade older we get. That's just if you're doing all the things you used to do when you were a teenager and in your twenties and even in your early thirties.

Speaker 3:

So that just means we have to work a little harder to make sure that we're protecting that lean muscle mass. Muscle is it's like longevity in your body. I wish more people understood that. We talk about brains and our hearts and our lungs, which are all super important, but muscle is like the reservoir where all of these aminos are stored and where your body can pull them to activate protein synthesis across your body for all the things it's doing. So when you feed yourself protein or you're having protein powder or you're using EAAs, you're helping counteract that sarcopenia because you're sparking that protein synthesis and then when you can combine it with some exercise and training as well, the impact is just all that more powerful.

Speaker 3:

So, you know, men go through their own issues as they age and got what's going on. But this is something that's particular to women, and a big reason why is how our hormones change as we get older, right? So as we head into that perimenopause and then menopause threshold, our estrogen levels are rapidly declining and that's a big reason why this happens. So these are, you know, just realities of life. But the awesome thing is that there are tools and they're not hard that we can pick up as women, to help counteract it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love that. I love that there's more information coming out. I don't know if there's more information coming out about sarcopenia, menopause, perimenopause, or if I'm just hearing about it more because I care, because I'm in perimenopause.

Speaker 3:

I don't. I think we have. Yeah, good, Now I can just speak from my experience. At Women's Health, we were writing about menopause since I got there in early 2018. But by my last two years so 2023 and 2024, like our readers just couldn't get enough of it. It was like we couldn't get enough content. So I definitely think there was an inflection point within the last couple of years. There was an inflection point within the last couple of years. I've seen the rise of so many scientists and doctors who are big voices in the space and have big followings. So, as a health journalist and somebody who's passionate about this stuff, I think it's so cool to see people talking about it in a way that they weren't before.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I always wonder was there more? Or am I like paying attention to it? But I agree with you. I just kind of question myself. Maybe I just didn't care or like pay attention to it or know that it was something that I mean, you know, obviously we need to continue to build muscle, you know you need to eat. You know the things. Obviously, if you want to have muscle as you age, you need to go to the gym and lift heavier.

Speaker 2:

But I think the part that we missed or missed or didn't know was that, like you said, the muscle loss coming along with all of that, it's like, yeah, I'm doing the same things that I used to be doing in my 20s and 30s. Now in my 40s, same thing happened to me. It was like I'm doing the exact same things and I've been doing this for 10 years. So you can't tell me that it's not or that it doesn't work. But it wasn't working. It wasn't until it was like, oh, I have got to. I'm losing muscle mass, and not only that, I'm putting on fat as well as I'm aging. Yeah, thank you so much from women all over the world. Not only are we losing muscle faster, we are putting on fat to replace it faster, which seems so unfair.

Speaker 2:

But once you kind of know and understand that, for me that's where it started was like okay, this is why, and then what can I do to fix that or kind of counteract that it was the creatine and the essential amino acids. So I want to drill that home for my listeners because I think that is again. I can't talk about it enough. I can't like soak in enough of my own information. Honestly, no-transcript EAAs from a essential amino acids. I keep abbreviating EAAs essential amino acids yeah.

Speaker 3:

It's not a few nicknames, EAA aminos?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're all kind of everywhere. Yeah, I hope I've distinguished. I was taking a different company for a long time and then I tried all four flavors and we're going to start talking about the Kion amino acids, which are my favorite, and actually those are the ones that I noticed a difference with physically. I guess when I said earlier that I started noticing a difference when I started taking it, it was when I tried all four flavors, and I'm not at like a big. If I find a flavor of something that I'm like, I will not switch from it. But my clients are like, what about these? What about the Keon? What about this flavor? And I'm like, oh my God, okay, I'll try every single flavor. But that's when I started noticing I'm feeling different.

Speaker 2:

And I've taken supplements for years and years and years all of the supplements and very rarely tell me, if this is true for you, does something work? Do I feel different? Like I'm taking it, and I'm like, oh, okay, it's not, like it's hurting anything. I don't think. But when you take something that makes you feel different and you can see a difference, I'm like, oh my God, this is great. So, absolutely, and I've been taking the Kian brand. It's been about a year since I've switched to that brand, yes, which I love, and I'm going to put a code for you guys in the show notes too. But you can go to getkiancom, slash Christy for 20% off anytime you're listening to this, because they're my absolute favorite.

Speaker 2:

Don't ask me for a flavor recommendation, though, because but I honestly I just like them all. And now that kind of diving into, I want to talk about how to take them, when to take them, things like that, because I have a little routine for myself. I put all of my supplements together in the morning I put my EAAs, I put my creatine and whatever I'm kind of having If I'm taking a pre-workout I'm not right now, but I mix all of that together. So when we're talking about the specificity of essential amino acids, we've kind of dove into what they do for your body. When do we take them and why does that matter or no?

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I want to get into that, but I do.

Speaker 3:

I I have to pick up the thread where you said you were taking another brands and then you've been taking Kion's for a year and noticed it.

Speaker 3:

So, Kion is the only one I've ever taken, so I don't have that experience of comparison. But I will say I've talked a little bit about being a health journalist and working at Women's Health. Like I, deeply, deeply care about the science and the research and what the experts say. I have my personal training certification. I have a nutrition coach certification, but I'm not an MD or a PhD or an RD. You know I defer to the experts and the people actually devoting their life to these Absolutely. So when I said I went on this journey, particularly with creatine and EAAs, a big part of that was me doing the research, like getting on PubMed and finding those studies where I put this thing into my body and what I love about Kions and what's different than some other brands and there are totally reputable brands out there. I would say make sure that whatever you're taking is third-party tested so that you know, you know, you've got safeguard, make sure there's they're not.

Speaker 3:

you know that just ensures there's not contaminants or mold or metals or other weird stuff that you definitely don't want in your supplements. But a lot of the brands out there have proprietary blends and they don't break down what's in them.

Speaker 3:

So the important thing, if you really get into the research, is that your EAA is enriched with leucine. That's one of the branched amino acids and I would argue like the most important one. A lot of the studies particularly look at leucine. Or when they're doing studies on humans with an EAA supplement, they're making sure that they're leucine, or when they're doing studies on humans with an EAA supplement, they're making sure that they're leucine enriched.

Speaker 2:

And Keon's is so.

Speaker 3:

I don't know. You know, I don't want you to. You don't have to say what other brand you were taking. There's no reason to ding anybody out there. I offer that up to people listening. That that's actually like a really crucial thing if you're going to invest in one of these supplements and put it in your body Definitely.

Speaker 3:

And that's the reason why I love Kions, because they're not gatekeeping what their secret recipe is. It's right there on the label. In terms of how I personally use it, so I keep using the word journey, so do you. I love it, but with my aminos journey in the beginning, I started with it in the morning, and so I'm like you. I like to take all my supplements at once. For me, the morning works because then I don't forget. I know it's happening Like while I'm having my coffee and putting on my workout clothes, I'm up really early and I just take a scoop and put it in a glass of cold water. I also take my scoop of creatine and I stir it up. Perfect, and I'm really feeling fancy. I might take out my latte frother thing.

Speaker 2:

Oh, a little frother yeah.

Speaker 3:

Bougie, exactly, but you don't need to do that. And then I do like all the flavors.

Speaker 3:

I think mango is my favorite, at least at this moment and then I just drink that puppy and yeah, I. So that's how I start every single morning. I hit the gym right after that. So there's, I should say there's no wrong time to take aminos. You're not like doing it wrong if you take it at lunch or before bed, and actually there's some benefits for different times a day, but if you can take it right before you work out, that is pretty ideal. Ok, because your muscles now are going to go, you know, work, you're going to challenge them. They are like sponges just waiting to soak up those aminos and begin the protein synthesis process.

Speaker 2:

OK.

Speaker 3:

So, like that is awesome. As I continued down this road, I started having aminos more than once during the day. So I actually, when I make a water bottle for the gym, I put another scoop of aminos in with ice and water and I start sipping that like halfway through my workout Okay, ice and water. And I start sipping that like halfway through my workout Okay, and it tastes good and you know, kind of gives me I feel like it, whether it's psychological or real gives me a little boost during my workout. I will also not every day, but many days I'll have another water bottle with another scoop, like mid afternoon. Since I got really dialed into eating protein from foods, I find that I'm not very snacky.

Speaker 3:

I'm eating enough and protein is very satiating, but you know, days are long and full of zoom meetings and running around, yeah, so sometimes I'll have another water bottle just for like an energy boost and a boost during the day and like they've done research, I think it was 19 scoops a day. They've done research. I think it was 19 scoops a day. Nobody got injured or had health issues, but that's the maximum they've tested it up to and found that there's no negative effects on the body. I don't know why you would want to have 19 scoops a day.

Speaker 2:

You can dump the whole container into your water bottle. What are you doing? I mean it's good, but it's good.

Speaker 3:

But yeah, I'm having it at about three times a day. I have heard from people who like to take it before bed. They'll have another glass, and that's kind of genius actually, because, as you know, when we're sleeping that's essentially your body going into fast mode.

Speaker 3:

So if you can load your body up during that time with more aminos so it can do the synthesis overnight while you're sleeping, that's great. But I would say for beginners out there, like start with one scoop in the morning, just like you're doing, Christy, and you will notice a difference.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, perfect. I am just such a if I don't do it in the morning, it's not going to get done type of person Right now anyway. I know life will slow down someday, but I love that idea of taking it in the evening. I love the idea of sipping on something all day. So I'm kind of thinking I need to get back to a different routine here soon, of just kind of when I'm taking things and even workouts, like life is just shifting, of like when can I? And I have been taking it in the morning before a workout. It's kind of just when I take everything and then just go head out. It's my routine. I know everything's getting done. I'm not a mango girly, but so many people love mango, and I'm also not a lime girly, but I think the lime is my favorite flavor, which, if I had to tell you I was like this is the one I don't want to take.

Speaker 3:

I love the lemon lime. That is so crazy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I love it. I saw lime and I'm like not a chance I'm going to like this, but I really do like the cool lime flavor.

Speaker 3:

Then there's triple berry and there's watermelon. I agree they're all good. So you?

Speaker 2:

really can't really lose, but anyway, total side note there. Yeah, I think you can't really lose, but, um, anyway, total side note there. But yeah, I think taking them in the evening is good. I think a lot of people get stuck on when can I take it? Or think they have to take everything separately. And it's like now I'm drinking, maybe my pre-workout, I'm drinking my protein shake and I'm drinking, drinking, drinking, which, first of all, drink all day.

Speaker 2:

I love that. But I I mix, because I get that question a lot. I I've never, I've never actually questioned whether or not I should just dump everything together. I always have done that. But I like that. You said just to kind of take it whenever, because I think people do. You know, there's the creatine question of whether or not you know 30 minutes before a workout or 30 minutes after, and then EAAs I've heard a lot as well, especially like the Kian brand just you know, like kind of taking it as a pre-workout. A lot of people do that and so it's just, you know, that's one more thing you have to take with you, to remember to take to work before you go to the gym and all the kinds of things. So I like that it's just kind of a get it in when you can't Call it good, you can get benefits, no matter what.

Speaker 3:

If you really geeky like you and I seem to be, you can game it even more. But honestly, yeah, do it at a time, you'll remember. That works for you and that is the answer. Awesome.

Speaker 2:

I like, too, that you touched on the leucine. I think I'm very big on researching as well and I won't just put something in my body just to put it in my body just because someone said and I definitely am a big researcher of brands so it wasn't a terrible brand that I was having and I did notice some things with it. It was just like I can't even really explain the feeling that I had when I took the Keanu Minos. It was just like I just felt my whole like the inside of my body. It was just like the craziest thing. I just felt so good, like it was probably kind of like your mother-in-law, like the back pain. It was just like something is better.

Speaker 2:

And I feel really good with these.

Speaker 3:

It was so cool. And she told me that because she's older than I am and so you know she had been telling me about these aches and pains she'd been experiencing in her body. So I was like I mean, that's like a drastic difference for me. Again back to the deadlifts. I, as I said, I'm lifting some serious weight and I just noticed like I'm not even sore the next day. Yeah, Nice, that is. That is not how it used to be when I've been lifting for a long time, so that it's pretty. I also think it's so cool that our bodies are like these science experiments. You know, yes, as long as you're experimenting safely with reputable products that have research behind them, it's really fun to see how they impact you, how you feel and how you can mentally perform.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and it's kind of like one of those things too. I remember hearing like, wait till you hit 40, you'll have all these aches and pains. And I'm not saying that I don't have aches and pains like I do, but it's also like, well, if I eat enough protein and if I acquire the amount of amino acids that my body needs in a day, if I require the nutrients that my body needs in a day, maybe it would act a little bit better for me if I was feeding it and moving it. So I think, for me too, it kind of makes me wonder like, oh, this is how I'm supposed to feel, Like, yeah, of course I'm going to age and, like we said, things are going to move differently in the muscle loss and, you know, the fat gain. But I don't think we have to necessarily settle. We don't have to settle for the aches and pains and just this is how it, you know, life is after.

Speaker 2:

So I'm all about taking something that will help me with that, if it's, you know, from a reputable place. So I think I'm just huge on that. When I'm taking something like God, I feel so good with this supplement, why would I not take it? It just I think that goes a long way, especially because, like, yeah, I do, If you sleep wrong, you can wake up with a cranked neck. So, like why I want to do everything that I can to keep myself healthy from the inside out. And this is just something, like you said, that was researched and it just it just makes sense to fill your body with the amount of protein that it needs and all the essential amino acids. And when you read I mean I'm encouraging everyone to go read about essential amino acids I mean when you do not even a deep dive, if you just ask chat, GPT or Google, what are essential amino acids, I think for a lot of people, and for me included, I need to know, like for someone just saying, like you need 120 grams of protein For what? For what do I need that for? And I have podcast episodes about these topics. So, go, you know Google that as well. But, yeah, go, go listen, because it's when you know like, okay, I'm not going to skip out on this supplement or I'm not going to work, miss out on this workout because of X, Y and Z, it just makes it so much easier to to get it in.

Speaker 2:

I did have one more question that I thought of. If someone is saying because I've heard a lot, especially when clients first come to me, I'll say, like, while we're working on increasing your protein, take these essential amino acids. You know, take the Keanu aminos because it's going to help you feel better in the meantime, because we're not jumping from 40 grams to 160 grams in one night or overnight. So I kind of encourage them to start these aminos in between to kind of help with that. I get asked the question now that I'm hitting my protein goal, do I still need this supplement? What are your thoughts on that? Talk me through that.

Speaker 3:

I'm so glad you asked that. I was just asked this in Instagram DM. I also kind of an adjacent question is wait, do you also use protein powder if you're taking aminos?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, people think it's one or the other for sure.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and then I also get asked like wait, I'm confused. My bottle of aminos doesn't say how many grams of protein you're serving. You know? So I know, and it's. I'm like I know it's. It's not apples to apples, you know.

Speaker 3:

Again, we talked about how, when you're eating a whole food which is a high protein source in your diet here's the deal. So when you're let's say, for the sake of simplicity, that somebody is not vegan or vegetarian they're really focused on dialing in their protein intake. They're aiming for, let's just say, 150 grams a day. So they're like I'm going to have steak for dinner, right, steak has a ton of protein in it. Let's say, gosh, I don't know, 40 grams, for, you know, a healthy cut of steak.

Speaker 3:

It's unlikely that you're eating that steak all by itself. You're probably having, like, some green beans with it, maybe a baked potato on the side. All good, by the way. Sure Minerals, antioxidants, wonderful things the way. Sure Minerals, antioxidants, wonderful things. But what happens is, when you consume all of those things together, your body is just a little bit less efficient at pulling the aminos out and it's less efficient at digesting that protein. Okay, so again, I would never tell you not to continue to pair your steak with a sweet potato or a potato, yeah, like, please have the potato. And you know the green beans and all those good things. Please continue to eat protein forward, but when you have your aminos, the formula, the powder, it has been developed in the exact right ratio, with the extra leucine that we talked about, so it is immediately bioavailable. Once you drink it and it hits your system, your body can use it immediately.

Speaker 3:

So, even on days I hit my protein goal which hopefully is most days, I continue to have my aminos because it's like an insurance policy. I just know that I'm efficiently activating protein synthesis in my body yes, for my muscles, but also for my heart, my brain, my immune system, my liver, all my organs. You know all those good things. So it's not an either. Or I would say, take it every single day and you just know you're covered.

Speaker 3:

Another thing is like real life happens. Right, my husband happens to be. He's an economist, but he happens to love to cook and makes really delicious dinners and sometimes he'll make us like homemade pizza or pasta. And I remember at the very beginning of my protein journey, when I was like super locked in and like adding that up in my head, he made this like beautiful pasta. It was not homemade noodles, but you know, beautiful homemade pasta with veggies and all sorts of good things in it. And I, christy, was like oh, there's no protein in this. I was like went into our cupboard to pull out a tin of tuna fish and Matt was like you are not putting that on dinner. And then I had it and I was like he's so right, I'm not going to ruin this beautiful masterpiece. Maybe I should eat the tuna all by itself first, so that I can hit my protein goal and like listen, more power to you if you're really locked in. Maybe you're competing in fitness competitions or other things.

Speaker 3:

I don't know about you. I don't want to live my life thinking about cans of tuna before a family dinner. You know I want people people to enjoy my life and if some days I'm not hitting my protein goal, move forward and not be strong about it. And aminos really help me do that, because I know no matter what I'm good.

Speaker 2:

That is so true. I imagine almost every woman listening to this right now is like yep, totally been there, because I could see myself doing the same thing. And I actually had a client tell me that she was struggling with that the other day. Something about I was talking about having like rice. I have rice cakes and like chocolate hummus every single day I have two of those for like my. Oh my God, so good. And she was like I struggle with not having protein because once you learn to balance in your macros and balance your meals and all that thing and that can be obsessive. So I know that so many women are going to hear that because I used to do the same thing Like, well, where's the protein? How am I? I need 20 grams of protein with every meal or you know, whatever it is that you hear and it gets obsessive. So that's funny. I can imagine your husband being like you're not putting tuna fish on this beautiful pasta.

Speaker 3:

He was not having it and he was exactly right. I mean, related to that, protein powder is awesome and by using protein powder your body is more efficient at digesting that and using it for protein synthesis in the body than from whole foods. Okay, that's kind of like a level and again saying like, subsist on protein powder, but sure it's, I think, think, important to point out.

Speaker 2:

And then this is a step up.

Speaker 3:

This is like the final, like the peak yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, I'm glad you said that. I like the insurance policy that you said and taking it every single day is good because we get. I think with the creatine I was like should I just take it on days that I work out? So maybe I think a lot of people think of EAAs as like if I'm not hitting my protein goal, I should take this.

Speaker 2:

Just take it every single day. If you hit your protein goal, fantastic. If you're a little under, also fantastic, You're good. That's exactly how I look at it. I'm like this is an insurance policy I like insurance policies.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's good. Yeah, I think of it also as like okay, this is just filling any gaps, whether I know about the gap or I'm mistakenly creating.

Speaker 2:

And there are some gaps, whether we're tracking incorrectly or whether the food labels have what they can be 20% wrong or something. So I mean, why and not to mention that or, in addition to that, all the other benefits that you know that they're doing for your body? Like there's just, it's something that I just there are now supplements EAAs and creatine that I will be taking, I believe, for the rest of my life.

Speaker 3:

I definitely will and my husband, he takes them too. I think one thing, like, as long as we're on this topic and you were asking about this a second ago, about women specifically and I would like love to hear your perspective as you're talking to clients. But I think you know, as women are going through these changes as we're aging we've talked a lot about sarcopenia and fat and hormonal changes. So when you tell people, okay, this is your protein goal based on your activity level and you know your weight and your body, et cetera, sometimes protein can be quite caloric and so if they have a goal that's also for body composition, say they want to lose weight, whether just because they'd feel better in their favorite pair of jeans or because they need to for, you know, medical and health reasons, the protein and the calories in that, you know that can be.

Speaker 3:

It can be difficult for people to wrap their heads around like really I need to have like another rest, or this, like how am I going to balance this? You know being thoughtful about my calorie consumption but also being really thoughtful about my protein consumption, and I think that's another place where EAAs can really help, because you're hitting that macronutrient requirement and they don't put the calories on there and I think there's like legal reasons why and it's complicated because of the formula, but it's essentially as close to zero calories you can get, like it's really just the aminos that are going into your body. Yeah, you know. Again, I just want to be clear. I'm not suggesting that anybody listening like live on aminos. That would be a very sad Please don't. Please don't do that. But you can think of it that way as like a helper tool as you're on a weight loss journey too.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I totally agree. That's. I think that's the reason that I suggest EAA so much in the beginning of working with a client Usually, usually clients come. I mean, my podcast is called Unfuck your Fitness, so we're literally sometimes starting from zero and unfucking it along the way. So I'm big on you know.

Speaker 2:

If we need to start, obviously this is macros and these are the calories and this is where your body would be running efficiently. But here's where you are, after tracking for two weeks, and then the numbers that you can give someone can be pretty alarming. And then, as they learn to track their food, it's a lot coming at them at once. So I do that for that reason as well, kind of saying these are an insurance policy, not only for just in case you don't hit it, but in that meantime, while you're learning and understanding the importance of nutrition and how your body works and no one ever comes to me just wanting to lose weight they also want to know why they're putting things in their body and they wanted to have a lifestyle.

Speaker 2:

Like you know, we're in our 30s and 40s is who I'm talking to? Mostly they. They don't care right now about, yeah, we want to look fucking amazing, but we understand there's a process. So, yeah, I think that's why I, for me, it really helps to understand like they're going to help me feel better, but they're also going to help me stop that stress so much on hitting that macro because, yeah, when they start tracking protein, they're like I'm already hitting my calorie goal and I'm at 40 grams of protein. How am I going to hit my calorie goal and get 120 grams of protein?

Speaker 3:

that is daunting so I think this is a yeah.

Speaker 2:

So this is a quick way to get the macronutrients and different things in there that they need without changing so much and feeling like a failure in the process. So I've really liked suggesting the Keanu Minos for that to almost every single client that comes to me, because it makes them feel better instantly. They feel like they're doing something helpful towards their protein goal, which they know is so important because I talk about it all the time and it's it just has so many benefits and then helps them to calm down and, you know, learn, because there's no rush in learning macros, like you do not have to be perfect, but let's get you some things and processes you know in place. So, yeah, I completely agree with that.

Speaker 3:

That's awesome. I love, and I love that you do episodes like this, really getting deep on the science of it, and that you explain all that to your clients, because I do think that makes the journey again. You're so much more motivated and likely to adhere to it if you understand why you know it's so easy to just as people who now know the ins and outs of this to give a prescription or say do it this way. But if we can show and explain and help these women understand why are you doing this, I think and hope they can make it a lifelong habit which will meaningfully impact how they feel.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, totally, totally agree. That was the whole point of starting this podcast. Actually, literally, the whole point was like I feel like that for me. Totally agree, that was the whole point of starting this podcast. Literally, the whole point was like I feel like that. For me, if I, if someone sits me down and explains to me, yes, the science, and then, yes, what it does even if it's lifting or if it's macros or literally anything, I guess saving money, it can be any kind of a process if you're explaining it to me and then you break it down into terms that I understand and that really make a difference to me, I'm good, like I will do it for the rest of my life.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to say another word. But you're right, you do have to hear it. I think you said something earlier about just, oh, it's about different ways that we put stuff out there. People have to hear it how many times for it to sink in? But one way it's just they need to hear it, one way that hits home for them from someone that they trust or maybe not. Just, you know, just in a way that's like oh, my God, I've never heard it said like that, the amount of times that I hear someone say that to me from this podcast is like, yeah, because why are we?

Speaker 2:

Yes, we need the science, and then we need to not dumb it down, but that's the only word. Like for me, I need it dumbed down as to like, just why? Just why am I doing this and and and then, once I start to do it for like the aminos, like the creatine, I feel better and I look better and I'm lifting more and I'm recovering better. Say no more, like I am good, I am a, I'll take this for the rest of my life. There's no, I will not not take this. So that's so. That's kind of the journey that works for me. So yeah.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I agree, I had to hear it all different ways from all different people, but I think there's also an element of like you get to a point as a woman, your 30s or 40s or 50s where you're, like, more open to receiving these messages because of what you're seeing physically, emotionally and mentally. So I hope that all of those women out there find your podcast, that this becomes the game changer in their lives that I know it can be.

Speaker 2:

Yes, me too. Well, I have really enjoyed talking to you. I feel like we could do like six episodes. I'm like it's like we're a lot. I feel like we're a lot of like how old are you? 48. I'm 46. 46. Okay, not that you look like you're 48. I was like I know you're a little older than me, I'm 44. I've got a couple of years on you, not not many, but I was like I think, how tall are you? I'm 5'6". How tall are you? Okay, I'm 5'3". I'm a shorty, but yeah, I think we're pretty similar in just how we think and stuff. So I think it's fun.

Speaker 2:

A lot of my clients and listeners are the same. They just like it straight to the point and I know I'm not going to put anything or anyone on here that I wouldn't learn from or I'm just like I'll tell you how it is. So, no, I really appreciate it. I've followed you on social media for a long time. I didn't know all of the things that you had done, but I really appreciate your information and I just like how you put information out is very, it's just real Like. I just appreciate real people doing real things and it's inspiring to see someone. I mean I'm 44, but even you know, when I was younger. To see someone 44, 46, still doing things and saying, you know, just being real, like I just feel like that's just so motivating. So I appreciate you in this space.

Speaker 3:

It was definitely a fun conversation for me too, and I'll come back anytime we can, yeah. Anything you like. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2:

I can't like geek out all day on this. I know I appreciate it and your information on the Kian Aminos was fantastic. I've taken them and I again I'm just like, if I take it and I notice a difference. And I've listened to you know, founder, and all that I've. I listened to podcasts a lot, so I've listened to you on different podcasts and, yeah, I've soaked up all the information on on Kian as well.

Speaker 2:

So, again, I do have a code for my listeners you can go to get Kiancom, slash Christy and save 20%, which is freaking awesome supplements are. You know? I feel like, if I'm going to take them forever, I got to put them in my budget and I like like, we like that. So, but yeah, reach out to me personally. You guys know you can comment here on Spotify or shoot me a message on Instagram and I will tell you what flavor I like if you ask, and I will give you any information that you need. But thank you so much for being on, liz. I really, really appreciate it and I will talk to you guys in the next episode.

Speaker 1:

Bye in the next episode. Bye, thanks for listening to today's show. Go ahead and leave a rating and a review and, of course, follow the podcast so you don't miss out on any future episode. Much If you came to connect with me over on Instagram at Christy Castillo Fit. I will see you next time.